You Can Have a Band Even if You Don't Have One

Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:38 PM Posted by Tondeleo Lee Thomas
Tondeleo: One thing I admire in people is confidence and boldness. I tend to be rather timid so I guess that is why I find myself captivated with people who are confident and don't worry about much of anything. That is part of my fascination with the rural Americans that I have gotten to know over the years. 

Most of them have grown up from the beginning with no advantages, poverty, having to make do with whatever they could. In school, they talk about being picked on because of being poor, but how they learnt to fight or to have skills that kept people from picking on them - or both - being able to fight and also developing skills. 

A lot of them have done jail or prison time not so much because they are criminals but because when they have an infraction of the law, they can't afford a solicitor, or attorney. They don't expect to be treated fairly and even going to jail seems to be something they take in stride. They have this attitude that nothing is easy anyway, but that also means that nothing is hard. 

I have gone with Doc and Marilyn, Doc and Rick or just Doc when there is a chance to play music, and the rest of the band can't come. Sometimes it is at the last minute that the rest of the band or part of the band can't come. I have never known them to cancel. They just grab their instruments, get into the truck and head for the gig. 

I ask, "Aren't you a bit worried? People are expecting a band and it is just you?" It NEVER seems to worry them! Not at all! Doc says that it won't be any problem because there will be other bands there, and musicians like to play, and he'll just ask some of them that play well to back him or them up. 

I ask if it doesn't worry him, and he says it doesn't. Marilyn tells me that I have to have more faith. 

Doc: Well, Tondy, it's like this. People want to hear you play. If you wait until all the situations are right, you'll never play. We grewed up playin garbage instruments and makin' do with whatever we could and playin' with whoever was around. You learn to play with anybody and they learn to play with you. It's no big deal.

Matter of fact, Chuck Berry ain't never had a band! He just would take his guitar and get on a bus or a plane and fly to where he was goin' and the people what booked him would have to get together some local folk to play and back him up. He'd run through the songs with 'em once or twice and then would have his show, shake their hands, collect his money and go back home to sleep in his own bed. 

I aint as good as Chuck, so it really aint no problem. People always step forward. If you do the right thing the right people will always show up and play with you.  
Marilyn: We got it so we can play just me and Doc, or Just Rick and Doc, just me, Rick and Doc, just Rick and Doc, just me, Doc, Rick and Jerry or any part of the band and we can give them a good show, can't we, Doc?

Doc: Yeah, it ain't an issue. Sometimes a whole band will back us up, if it is just one or two of us. Like we played over to a place in Waldorf an' everyone but Handsome Brian the Bishop Garner, our drummer could make it. We weren't gonna cancel 'cause of that. And we weren't playin' without a drummer.

So when we got there, we started askin' around, and Jerry found a drummer named Bradley who was playin' with another group. I think he turned out to be from Bowie, MD, up the road about an hour.

We talked to him a bit about how we sound and what kind of music we do, and when we got up, Bradley got up with us and played just like he'd been with us for years.

Marilyn: He was truly anointed and that is what makes the difference so it can sound like he had been with us forever. The Holy Ghost was in him and the Holy Ghost HAS been with us forever, and He knows all our songs and just played them through Bradley. 

Doc: That, and Bradley is a good drummer in the first place. We never seen him before and ain't seen him since. But if we're out somewhere and need a drummer and he is there, we'll ask him up to play again.

Tondeleo: But doesn't that make you at least a tad nervous? That would give me an ulcer!

Marilyn: NO, you got to have faith, Tondy, you got to have faith.

Doc: Marilyn's right. You gotta have faith, and then open your mouth and ask around. You'll find the people you need! 



Doc and Marilyn in Wyoming... well, Camden-Wyoming, Delaware

Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:31 PM Posted by Tondeleo Lee Thomas


Tondeleo: I rang up Doc to check on how he and Marilyn are doing. He was pretty excited because he said that he and Marilyn had gone to Wyoming over the weekend, and that they played there, and then played somewhere else, and he drove back to his bungalow in Maryland Saturday night.

I'm not an expert on the geography of the United States, but I do know that Wyoming is not a place that one can drive to from the east coast on Friday, then play at two venues, and drive back by Saturday night. I DO know that much.

When I questioned Doc, he insisted that they were in Wyoming, that it was a four hour drive from Southern Maryland, and that he did not need to be instructed by a Brit about "geometry." He said he had seen the signs saying Camden Wyoming and that signs don't lie.

He let me know that Wyoming is right over there by Eastern Shore and he had not ever been there before but would definitely be going back, and that he and Marilyn had some bookings lined up there.

Whilst we were talking, I Googled Camden, Wyoming discovered that it is NOT Camden, Wyoming, but is a town in Delaware, near to Eastern Shore, MD, called in fact, Camden - Wyoming. I looked on MapQuest and further discovered that it truly is about two and a half hours. 

Doc: Hey Tondy, last Saturday me and Marilyn played a bit over in Eastern Shore and also in Wyoming for a full day. I had never been to Wyoming before, and was hopin' to see some cowboys, but we didn't see any.  It just looked regular, like a place.

We went to a place called Band B Music and Sound. They was real nice and had a lot  of store bought guitars and such, and drums and new amps. I brought my dobro and my tacklebox guitar. Marilyn brought her voice and some harps.

The guys at B and B Music and Sound videoed a bit of us playing there as a music store demo. No mics. Just us belting out our typical “singing louder than a bus” vocals and an old 5 watt amp.

Tondeleo: Ummm, Doc, I just looked up B and B Music and Sound and they are not in Wyoming, they are in Delaware. Camden-Wyoming, Delaware. Near Eastern Shore, MD. I looked at a map and saw exactly where you were.

I can see that they are a big music store in Camden-Wyoming... Delaware.

Doc: That's what I said! America is a big country, and I can't keep up with all of it. I ain't said nothing about Delaware. But I did say something about B and B Music. They do promoting of lots of events and festivals over the Spring and in the Summer and in the Fall.

Tondeleo: Doc, I just went to their Face Book page and they have an 8 and a half minute video of you guys! 

Doc: Yeah, they videoed us makin' noise pollution for their store.I ain't knowed nothin' about no Face Book, though. That's a good thing, what they did for us.

I mean, we was calm, Tondy. Being in a store, we didn’t get to do our usual shenanigans. I actually sat down for the whole thing. Marilyn of course, bein' polite, stood. I played my famous Tackle Box Guitar which always gets attention – and makes people want to play it. A couple of their sales people and a manager played it and could not believe that it actually plays well, is well balanced and sounds like a “real” guitar. Hey, if it wasn’t easy to play, I sure wouldn’t be playing it.

Tondeleo: I'll post the link for their video, so people can watch it.


Doc: Thanks, Tondy! You the man!  

Where Doc Stevens Gets His Songs and How They Are Played.

Friday, February 6, 2015 12:34 PM Posted by Tondeleo Lee Thomas
Tondeleo: Whenever I hear Doc and Marilyn and the band play, I always hear songs that I have never heard before in  my life. Some of what they play I have heard somewhere before, but most of it is new to me. They sing a lot of originals, but a lot of what they do, Doc says is old stuff, stuff that everybody ought to know. 

But I have asked other musicians at venues and events where they play, and other musicians also shake their
heads and say they have no idea where Doc and Marilyn's songs come from. Like me, they are familiar with some of them, or others they might say they might have heard when they visited their grandmum's house years ago, but they basically don't know where the songs come from, or why they are played the way they are.

Doc: I play the songs I love and I play them how I feel them. Marilyn does, too. That's it. I don't never try to play it like the original 'cause I couldn't anyway. Matter o'  fact, the original artists ain't play them again like they did on the record - 'cept for George Thorogood, cause he always plays it word for word, note for note from the record to one concert to the next - but everybody else changes it from one time to the next, depending on their mood.

Like, when the original group is recording, they might do five or ten takes of the song. Finally, they get enough of it right that they can mix it into a song. But all of those takes ain't identical. Close, but not identical. Then when you hear the group play live, they always change it up a bit from the record as we know it.

But the deal is this. They don't sound just like the record, but they always sound like themselves, not somebody else. So if I play it or you play it or someone else plays it, why are we supposed to sound like the original band did on that one take that came out as the final release?

Guess what? We ain't gonna sound like them if we tried. Maybe close, but mostly not. The voice will be different, the tone will be different, other things will be different. But worse than that, we won't even sound like ourselves! I ain't gonna be happy tryin' to sound like someone else and failin'! I might as well sound like me and play the way I feel it.

If I don't like a song, I ain't gonna sing it. I ain't gonna play it, neither. If I DO like it, I'm gonna FEEL it. And that is the only way I'm gonna play it. Marilyn's the same way. So's the rest of the band. That's how we all got together in the first place. We just play what we love and play it the way we feel it. Most of what we play, the rest of the band ain't never heard the original anyway.

Tondeleo: So, WHERE do you get your material? Most of us have never heard these songs before... 

Doc: Well, Tondy, some of them I grew up hearin' from my relative's record players, at family gatherin's and such. Others I found on records what we got from the landfill, what other people was throwin' away. Some was so scratched up I had to make up the words where they wasn't playin' right, and I still don't know the right words.

Others were just songs that we all sang growin' up, when we'd get out the instruments and all sing together. Uncles, aunts, cousins, grandma, grandpa, neighbors and friends. A lot of 'em we got from church. Gospel concerts, fish fries and other things at church, you know, picnics, barbecues and all that.

Pentecostal churches always have good music. You can learn alot by goin' to a Pentecostal church. Jerry Lee Lewis, he came from a Pentecostal church. Elvis did, too. Aretha was a church girl. Otis Redding came from church, and Little Richard. Some of them's daddies was preachers. A lot more came from churches and that is where they learnt to play and sing and perform at.

Like with Marilyn, some of the songs she grew up with, she never heard the original. She just heard me an' my friends play 'em or heard them at church, and that's how she thought they was supposed to sound. Then later, she mighta heard one of them on a jukebox somewhere, and she'd say, "Uncle Doc, I heard 'I Believe To My Soul' on the jukebox today and it didn't sound right!"

I'd tell her that it sounded right for that take in the recording studio when that band recorded it; sounded right for them that time. the way we play it sounds right for us, at whatever time we sing it. She's old enough now that she gets it, but when she was 12 or 13, she just figured that our way was right and the other ways were wrong!

It's easier to play a song if you only play it the way you feel it whenever you play it. You're not tryin' to copy anybody, and you're free to holler it as you feel, and play it for as long as it takes for you to be done with it. That's how we do it, anyway.

Another Brit Visits Doc and Marilyn - Part 4 - Guitar Deals

Thursday, January 22, 2015 3:26 PM Posted by Tondeleo Lee Thomas
Tondeleo: One reason I like coming to America is the cheap prices compared to the USA. I can buy used cameras for about half of what we'd pay in the UK. Being used, there's no import duty to pay. Cameras, musical instruments and other things that can be flown back to UK can make a trip to America a very good deal.

My mate Cyril had this aspect of a visit to the states foremost in his mind in addition to the experience of visiting America and also being able to stay at Doc's place for free, and having no food expense. He is pretty adventurous when it comes to food, and likes organic. That helped him be prepared for eating deer, rabbit, squirrel and a lot of fish. Also, fresh raised veggies. 

But what got him most excited was being able to shop on Craigslist for prices on American guitars and equipment for well less than half the UK prices. 

Doc: Well, Tondy, your buddy Cyril's a happy camper now! He found a Les Paul, a real one, and got a good deal on it.

Tondeleo: I'm not sure what you're saying, Doc. I guess happy camper means he is glad to be sleeping outside... but I'm not sure what a Les Paul is - real or fake.

Doc: He ain't sleepin' outside. It just means he's happy. He ain't really campin'. That's just something to say. But he got a real Les Paul. that's a guitar. Made by Gibson.

Tondeleo: Are there "not real" Les Pauls? Imaginary ones?

Doc: YES, there's Les Paul's what ain't real! There's fake ones, there's copies, there's Epiphone ones, there's counterfeit ones made in China. All kinds of Les Pauls. But he got a real one. A real GIBSON Les Paul. Made in USA.

Tondeleo: OK... I hear you. Tell me about getting the real Les Paul. The Gibson one. Made in USA.

Doc: Last week Cyril was lookin' on the  'puter up to the Liberry on Craig's List of things for sale. He found a Les Paul on there, for sale in Arlington... over in Virginia. It was old, like ten years, but never been played. He had me call the guy first to ask him some questions.

Here's the story. The guy works for PBS makin' those Oldies Music Specials. He's a music history guy what used to work at the Smiths Onion [Smithsonian museum in Washington DC]. The PBS called him and gave him a job puttin' together those Oldies Music Specials. He was doin' one of those in Nashville and Gibson gave him some guitars to use as stage props. New Gibson guitars! As stage props, Tondy!

Tondeleo: Uhhh... that's unthinkable, Doc! Unconscionable!

Doc: Well, YEAH! Anyway, he was down there, doin' a country music special and Ricky Skaggs was there as a host or whatever the guy is what talks between the songs and 'splains them. Gibson gave this guy the Les Paul - this guy what doesn't even play guitar - and then Ricky Skaggs signed the case with a silver magic marker. So this guy over to Arlington was movin' down south somewhere and wasn't gonna take the guitar with him, so he was sellin' it. Aint never been played.

Me an' Cyril went over there, an' met the guy. He wanted $700 for it, which ain't bad. Cyril was all like "can I take that other bloke's name off the case?" I told him to deal with that later. I talked with the guy an' 'splained that Ricky Skaggs' name on that guitar case ain't mean nothin' to a 20 year old Brit who ain't never heard of Ricky Skaggs, so that ain't no sellin' point. Then I splained to him that Cyril's gonna have to pay $100 to take that guitar onto the plane to get it home. So if he charged Cyril $600 for it, plus the $100 Cyril would pay to get it home, that's still gonna be $700 which is what he wanted anyway...

Tondeleo: And that guy WENT for that?

Doc: Well.. YEAH! It only makes sense. $700 for a $700 guitar. It's just he wasn't gettin' all $700.  He got $600, but he knew Cyril was paying $700, so it was fair. Cyril got that guitar and was happy as a clam, Tondy! His smile started on the back of his head and went all the way 'round to the front of his head and back to the other side of the back of his head! Good old USA! Well, for good deals, anyway.

He brought it home and tuned it up and then we went out and he played it at a couple gigs already.It sounds good, plays good and some people have told him to keep Ricky Skaggs' name on it, 'cause it makes it more interestin'. They splained to him who Ricky Skaggs is. Plus Cyril called his Dad over in England who not only knew who Ricky Skaggs is, but is a Ricky Skaggs fan and was real proud of his son over gettin' that guitar with Ricky Skaggs' havin' signed the case on it. So anyway, there you go. I'm gonna hang up and get him to teach me a few things while he's still here.

Another Brit Visits Doc and Marilyn - Part 3 - Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Cyril is a guitar maestro...

Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:59 PM Posted by Tondeleo Lee Thomas
Tondeleo: Before my friend Cyril came to the States, his dad rang me up to ask if I could get Doc to teach his son a few things on the guitar. He said that his Cyril needed to learn how to strum better and how to keep better rhythm. I told him I would pass the message on to Doc. Then, after Cyril had been at Doc's a few days Doc rang me up, shocked at Cyril's guitar playing. Naturally I recorded the call as I always do with Doc or Marilyn - with their permission from when I first knew them.

Doc: Hey Tondy! You said Cyril's old man wanted me to teach Cyril how to play guitar a bit while he is here! I cain't teach that boy ANYTHING...

Tondeleo: Why is that, Doc? Is he that thick? You don't think he can learn anything at all?

Doc: NO! He is so GOOD I cain't teach him anything! The other night I handed him a guitar and picked up one of mine, and I figured I'd find out what level of a player he was. As soon as I started playin' he started knockin' out lead licks like he's been playin' 20 years!

I played blues. I played country. I played Gospel. Whatever I played, he played lead to it like he'd played nothin' BUT that kind of music all his life! He did it all and he did it right!

Tondeleo: Well, are you going to teach him how to strum better and keep better rhythm? 

Doc: NO! That boy don't ever need to strum anything! I called my buddy Big Dave last night and told him about Cyril, so he came over and went through the same thing, but different kinds of songs. He did rock, hard rock, soft rock, oldies rock and probally some disco. Not only did Cyril play all of them well, but he had the right tone and little details that make each of the different types of music stand out. I went in and listened to them and it sounded like he'd been playin' all those songs for years and years.

Big Dave asked him how he knew all them songs, and Cyril said he didn't know ANY of them! He said Big Dave just picked some good songs to play!  I ain't never heard nobody could play like that all my life.

Then, on Saturday, I took him to a country music jam, down to St. Mary;s county. I splained to him who Hank Sr was and Marty Robbins, and Webb Pierce and them boys, so he'd know somethin'. Sure 'nuff, when we got there, he started playin' and them old boys down there started askin' if he grew up playin' old school country music, or if his dad is a country music player. Cyril just said that he didn't grow up playin' it, that he really had just started! Yeh, he just started like an hour before!

That kid is a genius. We got bookin's comin' up with the Holy Ghost Band and I'm gonna bring him with us to play! If he would move to this country, someone would get that boy, take him to Nashville and put him in a box where all he had to do was play guitar every day! None of us has heard him hit a bad note yet. Not even one.

Tondeleo: I'll be sure and relay it to his dad that you are indeed working with him to help him play better...

Doc: Heck, I want HIM to indeed work with ME to help ME play better, Tondy! That boy is a musical genius! Gotta go now. I'm tryin' to get  him to give me a lesson! Marilyn made deer chili an' he's stuffin' himself with it. Plus he's on his fourth can of ginger ale.  I gotta catch him afore he passes out.